Rhodes Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Club's who netted the most league goals this season in the top ten tiers, New Salamis are top of the pile and then come St Panteleimon, Winslow United, Tring Athletic, Rayners Lane and Shefford Town & Campton, in that order. Surprisingly there is not one single Club from the English Football League or National League: Edited June 1, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savagebee Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Rhodes said: What a season my old club Hanwell Town FC could/should have had last season. 72 league goals in 28 league games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 The EFL and National League really do not seem to have a clue themselves what is going on so how are Club's expected to know. The National League say that the EFL remain 'supportive' of maintaining promotion and relegation between the two League's this season and 'decisions on deciding the season will be referred to Club's in due course’, whatever that means, no decision has yet been made on whether the play offs will take place. The National League believe that it is not practical or sustainable to start next season behind closed doors, they have informed their Club's that the start date of 8 August 2020 will 'inevitably need to be reviewed and updated’. It's disgusting isn't it and not good enough to leave so many Club's in total limbo and financial meltdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savagebee Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rhodes said: The EFL and National League really do not seem to have a clue themselves what is going on so how are Club's expected to know. The National League say that the EFL remain 'supportive' of maintaining promotion and relegation between the two League's this season and 'decisions on deciding the season will be referred to Club's in due course’, whatever that means, no decision has yet been made on whether the play offs will take place. The National League believe that it is not practical or sustainable to start next season behind closed doors, they have informed their Club's that the start date of 8 August 2020 will 'inevitably need to be reviewed and updated’. It's disgusting isn't it and not good enough to leave so many Club's in total limbo and financial meltdown. How will any non league football club from Step 1 to Step 6 be able to afford to play games behind closes doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Savagebee said: How will any non league football club from Step 1 to Step 6 be able to afford to play games behind closes doors? That's a very good question, and one I had already thought of myself ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 29/05/2020 at 23:50, Rhodes said: South Shields have impressively raised £16,000 thus far towards it's legal battle Sadly South Shields legal challenge against the Football Association's decision to overturn the null and void decision at Steps 3-7 level was today dismissed by a three man arbitration panel, their challenge to suspend promotion and relegation was also dismissed. It doesn't seem right does it and also a very large amount of Club's donated money has been used for the unsuccessful legal campaign: https://southshieldsfc.co.uk/club-statement-legal-challenge/ https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/30748/independent-tribunal-dismiss-south-shields-promotion-challenge/?utm_medium=onesignal&utm_source=push_notifications&utm_campaign=web_push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 I am actually at a loss as to why South Shields challenge was not through the Courts, as I thought was going to be the case, and with an independent arbitration tribunal who were obviously going to side in favour of the FA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Another statement from Stevenage Chairman Phil Wallace earlier today (Wednesday) who is clearly having sleepless nights at the moment and praying that Macclesfield get a points deduction: Edited June 10, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal fan Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I see South Shields lost their tribunal case for points per game promotion. It seems the logic was the pandemic was not foreseeable so the FA, NLS and Leagues were able legally to scrap titles, promotion and relegations without really consulting clubs. Meanwhile in Scotland and English Leagues 1 and 2 and the National League, clubs have been consulted and points per game was used with promotion and relegation instead of null and void. Clubs need to use this month’s League AGMs to seize back control and prevent the same farce probably taking place next summer. There might be a second virus wave and late season start, both of which are foreseeable. Here is three draft rule changes that at least offer possible promotion routes if clubs fail by AGM time. Some would also add rules to relegate on points per game but that is not my preference for an incomplete season: X. This rule only applies in the event that the FA truncate the playing season and at least two thirds of the scheduled matches for the season have been played for a division. For each team, the number of points obtained in games played (after any deductions made by the Competition or by The FA) shall be divided by the number of league games they played in the division before the season was truncated, to determine each team’s points per game. For each division a table shall be produced arranging teams in descending order of points per game. The team with the highest points per game will be declared the winners of the division. In the event of two or more teams having the same number of points per game, their relative positions shall be decided in favour of the team with the higher goal difference. If teams are level on points per game and goal difference their relative position shall be determined in favour of the team that scored most goals. If teams are level on points per game, goal difference and goals scored, their relative position shall be determined in favour of the team that won most matches. Y. Where rule X applies, if there would otherwise be less than 20 teams left in the Premier division for the following season, then the number of teams shall be shall be brought up to 20, by promoting sufficient teams from division One based on their position in the points per game table (winners first). Where rule X applies, if there would otherwise be less than 20 teams left in the division One for the following season, then the numbers shall be shall be brought up to 20, by promoting sufficient teams from division Two based on their position in the points per game table (winners first). Z If teams cannot take promotion because of ground grading or wish to decline promotion then the vacancy shall be filled by promoting the next team in the points per game table, but teams that finish below third in the points per game table shall not be offered promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 I see that the Wessex League, with a Premier Division and Division One at steps five and six level, have sadly lost its sponsor Sydenhams after seventeen years and the Isthmian, Southern and Northern Premier League's are still without a sponsor following BetVictor's decision to trigger an early release clause in their two year sponsorship deal after just one year. I wonder which League will be next to lose its sponsor with still no indication of when non League football will be back: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Alan Mak, MP for Havant, has written letters to both the Minister for Sport at the Department for Digital Culture Media and Sport and the National League seeking clarification on behalf of Havant & Waterlooville Football Club as to the play offs at Step 2 level and asking the National League to automatically promote the top two Club's should they not take place. Needless to say Havant & Waterlooville sat in second place of the National League South when the curtain came crashing down in mid March, what a surprise: Edited June 12, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) On 10/06/2020 at 21:31, Rhodes said: I see that the Wessex League, with a Premier Division and Division One at steps five and six level, have sadly lost its sponsor Sydenhams after seventeen years Sydenhams statement which leaves a sour taste in the mouth doesn't it after seventeen years: Edited June 12, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) Julian Sturdy, MP for York, has written a well worded letter to the Minister for Sport at the Department for Digital Culture Media and Sport asking to review the guidance regarding Step 2 playoffs. It does seem rather unfair doesn't it that York City 'finished' top of the National League North yet under the points per game (ppg) system they would be placed second to Kings Lynn and therefore not qualify for promotion as only the top placed Club would be promoted to the National League: Edited June 13, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) On 01/06/2020 at 19:13, Rhodes said: Further to the Club's who netted the most league goals this season in the top ten tiers, here are the Club's who scored the fewest league goals in the top ten tiers with no SSML Club's in the bottom 25, London Colney were on 28 goals when the curtain came down in March: Edited June 14, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 An article in yesterday's Times which pretty much says it all about the current situation: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2abf0ed6-ae5a-11ea-86d3-bc5eef90654f?shareToken=1112da1760d980066da56a1360dd166d Coronavirus has illuminated how every league in the English pyramid is inextricably linked - which should be cherished - but also deep inadequacies and inconsistencies in their governance. The National League spent three months waiting for the EFL to resolve their league standings, desperate to hold on to the two promotion places to the Football League it spent decades fighting for. The EFL’s top league was no different in desperately clinging on to the coat-tails of the Premier League, both of which resume this week. So, we have three “league organisers” independent but interdependent, and an impotent FA in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) What a dreadful shambles, last week Club's were informed that the Government (the Department for Digital Culture Media and Sport) had issued advice on the position at step 2 level however Club's have now been told that the DCMS have not issued any specific guidance afterall and it is a matter for the National League to decide, talk about sloping shoulders and a total disgrace. See today's letter issued by the National League to all their Club's Chairmen: Edited June 15, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 At least there finally appears to be some movement now where the National League is concerned and this is the likely outcome of automatic promotion and the play off's however staging play off's behind closed doors is going to cost Club's a fortune unless, presumably, games will be televised and they can recoup most of their outlay: https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/30819/national-league-clubs-receive-resolution-to-conclude-season/?utm_medium=onesignal&utm_source=push_notifications&utm_campaign=web_push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) The FA still have to make a decision on allowing new Non League Club's for next season such as Bury AFC and Isle of Man FC are hoping to join the Pyramid, other Club's have applied for voluntary relegation due to their financial plight, the emergency rules below apparently allow the FA's Leagues Committee to fill vacancies at their discretion: Edited June 17, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 National League Clubs have this afternoon overwhelmingly supported the ordinary resolution put to them, the League will now proceed with play offs at all Steps but they remain subject to Government guidance, National League CEO Michael Tattersall states 'we can now look towards the completion of end of season playoffs' and here is the Leagues statement: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Barrow, Kings Lynn and Wealdstone are set to receive automatic promotion, National League Club's have this afternoon voted to decide the three Leagues by way of points per game (ppg) (see below) however the decision still needs final ratification from the FA Council: https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/30839/breaking-news-barrow-kings-lynn-town-and-wealdstone-crowned-champions/?utm_medium=onesignal&utm_source=push_notifications&utm_campaign=web_push Edited June 17, 2020 by Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savagebee Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, Rhodes said: Barrow, Kings Lynn and Wealdstone are set to receive automatic promotion, National League Club's have this afternoon voted to decide the three Leagues by way of points per game (ppg) (see below) however the decision still needs final ratification from the FA Council: https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/30839/breaking-news-barrow-kings-lynn-town-and-wealdstone-crowned-champions/?utm_medium=onesignal&utm_source=push_notifications&utm_campaign=web_push Pleased for Wealdstone FC they work hard at that club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savagebee Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11885276/dowden-premier-league-fans-stadiums/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Savagebee said: Pleased for Wealdstone FC they work hard at that club. Savagebee - I have always been really unhappy at the way Wealdstone Football Club unscrupulously and deviously pulled the rug from under Ruislip Manor at Grosvenor Vale back in 2008 putting them out of business and being forced to fold after 70 years in existence before the Club were miraculously saved at the eleventh hour by Saint like Terry Springer when they became Tokyngton Manor. You will recall the story well as you posted on many of the threads at the time, it was absolutely 'criminal' what Wealdstone did and I made it clear to them in no uncertain terms which they naturally didn't like (see below). Now, as from this afternoon, they are a Step One Club so talk about treading on people on your way up: http://www.wealdstonefc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=688&p=4317&hilit=rhodes&sid=5eb4a28572aea7db0a43edfaa750bda4#p4317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savagebee Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, Rhodes said: Savagebee - I have always been really unhappy at the way Wealdstone Football Club unscrupulously and deviously pulled the rug from under Ruislip Manor at Grosvenor Vale back in 2008 putting them out of business and being forced to fold after 70 years in existence before the Club were miraculously saved at the eleventh hour by Saint like Terry Springer when they became Tokyngton Manor. You will recall the story well as you posted on many of the threads at the time, it was absolutely 'criminal' what Wealdstone did and I made it clear to them in no uncertain terms which they naturally didn't like (see below). Now, as from this afternoon, they are a Step One Club so talk about treading on people on your way up: http://www.wealdstonefc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=688&p=4317&hilit=rhodes&sid=5eb4a28572aea7db0a43edfaa750bda4#p4317 Yep at the time I had issues with it as I had soft spot for Ruslip Manor FC. But I don't know all the facts with what happend but it's 2020 now and life moves on. I've been to watch Wealdstone FC play every now and then over the years and I'm not a massive fan of there's but I'm happy to see a local'ish non league footy club go up and they do a great programme ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Savagebee said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11885276/dowden-premier-league-fans-stadiums/ Savagebee - Yes, let us hope that is the case or preferably sooner: As the Premier League returns to TV screens tonight, he said there were "intensive discussions" on getting fans into stadiums by next season, which is expected to start in September. Oliver Dowden told the daily press briefing: "By the return of the new season, we might be in a position whereby some fans could start to return to stadiums. (We are doing) intensive engagement (and discussions) on how we could get that done safely. Clearly we will look at positioning of fans, where they are relative to each other but there's all the issue about how you get in and out of stadiums in a safe way, and how you have access to conveniences and everything else." Premier League will return tonight with Man City vs Arsenal and Aston Villa vs Sheffield. But Mr Dowden warned that in the meantime fans needed to watch from home or else risk spreading coronavirus. He said: "Please look after your fellow fans and communities by watching from home - to keep the home advantage, support from home. There is nothing to be gained from congregating outside stadiums except to put at risk public heath." Digital passports could be used help get fans back in stadiums under plans being worked on by ministers and the Premier League. Former sports minister Richard Caborn revealed the Government is in discussions to trial the proposals at training sessions for up to 5,000 spectators to test whether they will work. There is currently no date for when mass gatherings such as sports events or gigs will be able to return, with experts warning it is unlikely to happen before a coronavirus vaccine is found. But the boss of the firm testing Premier League players said a digital health passport could be a “game-changer”. Mr Caborn said the proposals being worked on by ministers, clubs and testing and tech companies could be ready to open the turnstiles for the next football season. The health passport would be a web-based platform that shows the individual’s Covid-19 testing status and history. It is understood that under the plans, fans would scan the passport using a QR code when they enter a stadium - along with their matchday ticket. Mr Caborn said tech firm VST Enterprises are involved in designing a platform for the digital health passport. He told the BBC Radio 4: “I do know that there is obviously some discussions taking place with Government and the Premier League I understand, to see whether they can start digital passports. There are some proposals they trial this at training sessions with up to 5,000 just to test that through to see if that will work. As i understand it, there are some British companies which are working with the clubs, VST Enterprise for example have got this platform. Technology that is now being rushed into sport to see if the digital passport would be sufficient to allow fans to come back. In terms of next season there's a genuine attempt from the technology side of it to make that happen." Testing and digital health company Prenetics, which has been conducting testing for Premier League players and staff, said digital health passports opened the door to fans returning to stadiums. Avi Lasarow told Reuters: “I think its going to be a big game-changer in terms of linking COVID-19 testing results to a digital access mechanism based on biometrics and other such factors. With any innovation, you’re always thinking about what the end goal is in the world of sport it’s about getting fans back into the stadium.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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