kaizen 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Well that's a good sign - at least we can all still apologise to each other on here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
American FLEET FAN No1 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Apology accepted Ian. Hope everything has turned out ok for you. So you are no longer calling Ian,"Uncle Urchins toady", or words to that effect, as you did on another forum?.......Good to hear! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaizen 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 You know, on the forum I moderate on, that would be put down as trolling.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
American FLEET FAN No1 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 You know, on the forum I moderate on, that would be put down as trolling.... Good job you don't mod here then................ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claudius 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 One has to wonder what the futures gonna be like for Eufc. The cashflow forecast by the clubs accountant shows minus 130K..and since the team on the pitch isn´t raking in the points..one might suggest that the negative spirale will accelerate as the season goes on.Losing on the pitch has never dragged fans to stadiums. I think that Myfc in it´s present setup would have somewhere between 2K-3K members March 10. I am convinced they will try to change the setup..raising the membership fees dramatically..100 Pounds..200 pounds. Question is..what money in will this represent for Eufc.Are there more than 500 people willing to pay say 150 Pounds per year for a Myfc membership? What happens with Eufc IF Myfc isn´t longer able to bankroll the club? This question must be asked..it looks like a probable scenario in a not distance future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Holden 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 What happens with Eufc IF Myfc isn´t longer able to bankroll the club? Reform as Gravesend & Northfleet and start again in the Kent League. Go into admininstration take the deduction. Whatever happens, there will still be a club but without interference from people who have no real interest in the club other than as a computer game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaizen 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 One has to wonder what the futures gonna be like for Eufc. The cashflow forecast by the clubs accountant shows minus 130K..and since the team on the pitch isn´t raking in the points..one might suggest that the negative spirale will accelerate as the season goes on.Losing on the pitch has never dragged fans to stadiums. I think that Myfc in it´s present setup would have somewhere between 2K-3K members March 10. I am convinced they will try to change the setup..raising the membership fees dramatically..100 Pounds..200 pounds. Question is..what money in will this represent for Eufc.Are there more than 500 people willing to pay say 150 Pounds per year for a Myfc membership? What happens with Eufc IF Myfc isn´t longer able to bankroll the club? This question must be asked..it looks like a probable scenario in a not distance future. You've raised some very good points there - I can't speak for anyone else, but certainly in my case if I was in a position to do it, I would pay £150 a year to help bankroll the club.... hopefully there would be enough supporters to do the same and I'm sure there are some MyFC members who feel enough for the club to do so if it all does go tits up.... Maybe if it happens we need some sort of co-operative to step in and take over the club.... Just a thought.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
American FLEET FAN No1 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 What happens with Eufc IF Myfc isn´t longer able to bankroll the club? Reform as Gravesend & Northfleet and start again in the Kent League. Go into admininstration take the deduction. Whatever happens, there will still be a club but without interference from people who have no real interest in the club other than as a computer game. The Kent League will be a bitter pill to swallow, but so are most good medicines! I agree with all you say, especially going back to Gravesend & Northfleet, to represent the two Towns the Club serves(even though the majority of people living there don't serve the Club)! If this means losing Eurostars sponsorship, so be it. I can't believe Eurostar would want to continue sponsoring a Club that is in such turmoil(will MyFC walk, or won't they and signs seem to be they will) and appears to be losing respect from all sides! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian_W 155 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Apology accepted Ian. Hope everything has turned out ok for you. So you are no longer calling Ian,"Uncle Urchins toady", or words to that effect, as you did on another forum?.......Good to hear! LOL - maybe I was not strong enough to tell certain members who cause trouble to get lost. Maybe I should have done. Anyway we all learn by our mistakes - bullies are people that should not get their own way - sadly in life bullies often do and thrive off it. Of course I am not implying that any member of this site has every been a bully, but it has been known on forums! Time to move on..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claudius 0 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Another question that must be asked is how the 550 per week overdraft regarding the player budget has been allowed. From a distance,it sure looks like the people in charge at the club responsible for holding the agreed budget has failed to do so...yet again.In light of the clubs overall economical situation it must be looked upon as a severe blunder. Going over on the budget nowadays for Eufc is the biggest of no no..and the people responsible for doing this should answer the very modest question of why it has happened,and how they will prevent it from happening ever again. Sometimes..the quality of the running of the club..in certain key areas..just isn´t up to par. The very last thing Eufc is in need of now,and for the foresseable future is budget overdrafts.It must be worrying for the fans of the club too see that the current setup at the club doesn´t seem able to prevent it from happening. It is under quality mamangement.Pure and simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claudius 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Looking at Eufcs overall economy..with the circumstances the club today operates in(4K per week player budget etc,etc)...an outside sugar daddy that is thinking of bankroll the club will have to bring in somewhere around 400K to 500K per season and year..just to keep Eufc afloat. This is the overflow cost connected to the club at present. Is there anyone out there willing to spend this type of money at the club..season after season after season? IF there isn´t..and there isn´t..the club will need to cut it´s cost even from todays situation with those 400K-500K to be able to survive longterm. Eufc continues..even with the tinpot player budget of 4K per week..to bleed money like theres no tomorrow. It won´t hold.The clubs economy is sick to the core..and if not taken care about immediately..this will be the downfall and death of Eufc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Serious qustion, Clawd, if you hate myfc so much, and are not renewing (if you are still a member), and you don't even support or like Fleet, why are you interested in trying to tell everyone how to run the club? It is creepy having someone like you around with such an unnatural interest. What experience and qualification do you have? The real question is, if you are so wise, why haven't Lucy and Darter signed you up fof their venture? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loose 320 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Grow up Gaz, keep your trolling to your own forum. Which one are you using this week? You've had more forums then Daish has had interviews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 No game today, lucy? Interesting reading the whole thread, isn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loose 320 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just your usual handbag waving and dancing Gaz. Thought you would be busier trying to save your club but thats Gravesend fans for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 And I thought being a professional club chairman anc all that, you would be way too busy on a Saturday matchday afternoon to troll forum's. I is certainly unprofessional to cricicise the way other clubs are run.But I suppose it's a steep learning curve for you, It's all about having and receiving respect. Like you lost on 3 forums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loose 320 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 And more handbag waving. See you made the long trip to the match yourself Gaz, not. You worry about your club and I'll worry about mine. If Ian wants to promote his story thats fine by me. You talking about respect is a bit of a joke though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Worrying about us as well as your own team will lead to stress, Luce. And I was working today, a proper job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claudius 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Barrow 2 Eufc 0 it seems. Wonder how long Daish will stay on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 A rare good question, Clawd. I actually agree that I feel Liam must be considering his position. He won't be sacked with 18 months on his contract to run though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaizen 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I certainly feel with his last few interviews that maybe his frustration is starting to show though and we're beginning to see the beginning of the end of his term as manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites
American FLEET FAN No1 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 If Daish goes, who would be mad enough to want the job, with a near Zero budget and a far from secure future for the Club? Answers to The Club Sec.on the back of a used Fiver! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big J R 726 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 You must have been reading my mind, Les ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
American FLEET FAN No1 0 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 You must have been reading my mind, Les ! I wonder how long before EUFC/MyFC, or Daish realise they can't afford to keep him on at his present salary. Then there comes the choice of him walking or the Club/Owners firing him and having to pay off the rest of his contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apache 0 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I wonder how long before EUFC/MyFC, or Daish realise they can't afford to keep him on at his present salary. Then there comes the choice of him walking or the Club/Owners firing him and having to pay off the rest of his contract. Here's the problem as I see it. There is actually no one at EUFC in charge. Like a lot of businesses in England it runs on auto pilot. The very few businesses that do stand out are normally run by very talented, forthright people. MyFC in its present guise would take about 3 months to decide the price of the Fleet Burger. Yes, you're right, they see no point in paying him off, only to have to pay another manager. Daish is hardly going to walk. In this climate why would he? There isn't a queue of chairmen hoping to sign him. The money by all reports is good for his level. There is other dead wood that could be cleared out. I would be looking at the so called commercial manager and asking him to demonstrate how he has added to the bottom line since his appointment by David Davis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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