Rhodes Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Loosely - I've just got two words to say to you, Akmal Shaikh. You thought you could be Judge, Jury and Executioner there didn't you and played the Human Rights card but you were laughed out of Court trying to defend an unscrupulous drug traficker who was rightly put to death by the no nonsense Chinese. Now the boot is on the other foot you incredibly choose to condem a young woman who is clearly innocent, you baffle me you really do. As for the US's Human Rights record, it is second to none, my only slight criticism would be the unfortunate Gary McKinnon case where they should obviously just let the poor guy get on with his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 second to none? What about the way the Americans have treated people in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ian - You're simply playing into Loosely's hands with a post like that, incase you hadn't noticed the US is at war with Afghanistan and they have suffered huge casualties, what do you expect them to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ian - You're simply playing into Loosely's hands with a post like that, incase you hadn't noticed the US is at war with Afghanistan and they have suffered huge casualties, what do you expect them to do. Abide by international law. So are you saying it is correct to treat locals and prisoners of war badly and to torture them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 He doesn't get it Ian, he never will. If it doesn't involve a pretty girl or his pet hate of the day he's not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ian - Like I said you are just playing into Loosely's hands and what does Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay have to do with Amanda Knox. Anyway if for example a Prisoner of War (PoW) had been trying to kill you would you roll out the red carpet for them and ply them with caviar and Krug champagne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ian - Like I said you are just playing into Loosely's hands and what does Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay have to do with Amanda Knox. Anyway if for example a Prisoner of War (PoW) had been trying to kill you would you roll out the red carpet for them and ply them with caviar and Krug champagne. it has everything to do with your statement that the USA's human rights record is second to none. Yes you would treat them with respect. So was it right for Hitler to treat our citizens badly when captured during the war? Going upon your reaction you think they should have been treated badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Rhodesly - you've slipped on that banana skin rather badly haven't you. Try again village idiot. Edited September 9, 2010 by loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Going upon your reaction you think they should have been treated badly. Ian - All I'm saying is that war is a very nasty business and PoW's can't really expect to be kept in the lap of luxury can they even after the Geneva Convention was brought into being in 1949 following World War II. Anyway, as I said, what on earth has all this got to do with Amanda Knox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Going upon your reaction you think they should have been treated badly. Ian - All I'm saying is that war is a very nasty business and PoW's can't really expect to be kept in the lap of luxury can they even after the Geneva Convention was brought into being in 1949 following World War II. Anyway, as I said, what on earth has all this got to do with Amanda Knox. Why do you ignore the questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ian - Maybe you should be asking Loosely that question and Football Man and Sjj2112 for that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Going upon your reaction you think they should have been treated badly. Ian - All I'm saying is that war is a very nasty business and PoW's can't really expect to be kept in the lap of luxury can they even after the Geneva Convention was brought into being in 1949 following World War II. Anyway, as I said, what on earth has all this got to do with Amanda Knox. Are you stupid? You brought up Prisoners of War and get your facts straight, there were four Geneva Conventions, the first of which dates from 1864, the one which relates to the treatment of Prisoners of War dates from 1929. FFS, it's like nailing blancmange to the ceiling. Anyway, someone else has noticed that you can't answer a question to save your life, and you are drowning in case you hadn't noticed. Edited September 9, 2010 by loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ian - Maybe you should be asking Loosely that question and Football Man and Sjj2112 for that matter But it was not them that made a statement about human rights was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 rhodes is right,how can amanda knox be held accountable for her countries actions in guantanamo bay et al.Ridiculous comparison of events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 rhodes is right,how can amanda knox be held accountable for her countries actions in guantanamo bay et al.Ridiculous comparison of events Well he's the one holding her country up as the leading light on jurisprudence and human rights BB, when they are currently being investigated by a special UN Commission on Human Rights, Rhodesy has also gone on a little fantasy world tour of Prisoners of Wars rights, so what was it you agreed with him about his argument again BB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 My agreement with rhodes is not about the actual thread and his views on the young lady,just that you can't say any possible injustice with her case is ok because the americans have a less than credible record in human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 My agreement with rhodes is not about the actual thread and his views on the young lady,just that you can't say any possible injustice with her case is ok because the americans have a less than credible record in human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 My agreement with rhodes is not about the actual thread and his views on the young lady,just that you can't say any possible injustice with her case is ok because the americans have a less than credible record in human rights. Well thats interesting BB because what Rhodesy is arguing is that he can criticse her supposed treatment because America has a far better system and record. You're not off to a flyer are you BB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officialspokesman Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) rhodes is right,how can amanda knox be held accountable for her countries actions in guantanamo bay et al.Ridiculous comparison of events We can all be held accountable for the actions of our countries to a degree because we elect the politicians that make the decisions to build places like Guantanamo Bay, and when we don't like some of the things they do we tend to either look the other way, or pretend its not happening. I cant think of one nation that has not at some time in its history been guilty of some gross miscarriage of justice, or been involved in some form of cruelty. Even though the human race is supposed to be most intelligent species on this planet, the reality is that we are no better than the worse kind of wild animals. At least Rhodesy is trying to do something about what he sees as a miscarriage of justice, and not pretending its not happening, even though he is basing his case on the fact that Ms Knox is innocent because she happens to be a decent bit of tottie. Edited September 9, 2010 by officialspokesman Ian_W 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 rhodes is right,how can amanda knox be held accountable for her countries actions in guantanamo bay et al.Ridiculous comparison of events LOL Never said she was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 My agreement with rhodes is not about the actual thread and his views on the young lady,just that you can't say any possible injustice with her case is ok because the americans have a less than credible record in human rights. Again didn't say it was related, but if you look back he justified his comment because in his words 'The USA has a human rights record second to none'. That was the statement that I was disagreeing with and it is a statement that he has failed to either back up or give proof of. There are very few countries in the world that have a great track record on human rights sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Americas record is far from perfect but only a fool would say that they have a worse record with regards to justice,corruption and human rights than our italian friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Americas record is far from perfect but only a fool would say that they have a worse record with regards to justice,corruption and human rights than our italian friends. Where did you see this said then BB? Come on then, if you are the expert and possibly you are, how do you measure and judge? Completely unrelated to Amanda Knox's case as Rhodesy's poor little bit of "totty" of course... zzzz Edited September 9, 2010 by loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 If i could possibly read any of that i may comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Thats better,didn't say that it was down as read.Just thats my point of view old bean,you do seem a tad irrritated tonight loosely,whats the matter dear??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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