Yorkfox 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 There is going to be a vote on myfc about the 08-09 playing budget. The wording and numbers of the actual vote may change a bit from below, but the initial thoughts are. == playing budget for last season started at about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatMan 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Its when you see figures like that, that you realise the difference the Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_Dyke 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Originally Posted By: Yorkfox There is going to be a vote on myfc about the 08-09 playing budget. The wording and numbers of the actual vote may change a bit from below, but the initial thoughts are. == playing budget for last season started at about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu M 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 That's the weekly budget figures Greg. Or else Daish is doing miracles in motivation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_Dyke 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 thats makes much more sense !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatbury 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Maximum for me and 100 percent of player sales We must push for promotion this season ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hopeful 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Last season liam managed to turn out a side capable of beating any conference team, but the squad was not good enough to sustain a winning level every week.The reason for this could have been that the wage budget was not big enough to attract enough quality players.Obviously the club should not pay more than it can afford,but in winning the trophy,im led to believe a very large amount of money has come into the club.To me this money is a windfall and must not be wasted, im not interested in the play-offs, i want us to win the league.Give liam a large chunck of the trophy money and tell him to spend it wisely.Four more players to the squad on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charles Webster 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Number one criteria for setting the budget should be that it is what we can afford. Last season's budget only confirms what a brilliant job Liam and his team have done. But, in terms of being able to compete in the Blue SQuare Premier, what you may want to ponder is where would a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkfox 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Would be interesting to see if there is anything online about player budgets for other teams on the net. A quick glance found an article that said that Darlingtons playing budget for next year was to be cut 50%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_Dyke 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Originally Posted By: Yorkfox Would be interesting to see if there is anything online about player budgets for other teams on the net. A quick glance found an article that said that Darlingtons playing budget for next year was to be cut 50%. A word of caution to all Ebbsfleet fans !!! Darlo went for it last season, paying bigger wages to a fair few players, than even big spending Brentford could afford. They failed (just) and have noew released about 8 players, and will be a mid table side, with a whole new squad next season If Ebbsfleet go for a bigger budget, the consequences of failure are frightening Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianinho 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I've also got questions about other clubs' budgets. I understand some of the bigger Blue Square Premier clubs are around Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Urchin 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Originally Posted By: Yorkfox playing budget for last season started at about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkfox 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 The figures quoted came from an myfc article, pre a vote this Thursday. You may know this, but I didnt. the higher figure towards the end of the season is partly due to the loan players, but also bonus payments for players reaching a certian number of games played. Somebody did say, rightly or wrong that if next year with a larger squad, some players would play less and the bonuses would be less ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Urchin 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 no probs YF I guessed that you had extracted them off the forum.... here's the rub of it tho..... lets say you averaged a 1000 through the gate last season with full charge at 12 quid less concessions at say 30% thats 8 quid ie 8k per home game and another 4k from additional revenue each home game...thats 12k divided by two weeks = 6k a week self sustainability on wages and other overheads....!! we don't need to arthur anderson to tell us what those figures suggest if the budgets 30 grand every two weeks...36k a month losses which is about where we started on here regarding finances... yeah the trophy dosh is handy but its already been spent covering incoming losses.... knife edge YF...knife edge....a two year period of minimum budget and merging/settling in 'tween both parties would be my vote...liams good enough to do it....thats if he wants to and if those impatient for league football will let him... interesting times ahead for all concerned YF..interesting times.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan W (GNFC) 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Confused by your figures, UU - 1000 through the gate with 30% concessions surely gives 700 at full price ( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Urchin 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 sorry alan... just bashed it out off the top of my head without checking the gate fees but its 30 grandish down a black hole every month whichever way you do it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkfox 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 its the old argumemt, an average 1,500 attendance makes the figures look much better. Hopefully as a few off field things get going better, then that will help to. The actual figure chosen my members will be very interesting. I still suspect a figure straight down the middle wont be far off things. It does feel a bit like UU asking me to buy him his next car ( with HIS MONEY ! ), but he doesnt tell me how much he can afford, or what type of car he wants. An argument could be that all the figures quoted are affordable ( ? ) , so the choice really is how much risk you want to take, or to put it the other way, how ambitious you want the club to be. If you are Liam, how do you react to a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Urchin 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 trouble with a subsidised budget tho' YF (especially under the current circumstances with all the unrest over several issues manifesting itself on the cesspit) is that its only sustainable IF certain things happen..one of the much vaunted points of a fans owned club was that it would not be reliant on owners/directors/sugar daddies... at this moment in time unless there is money around that hasn't been revealed yet (big sponsorship etc) then I would suggest that sugar daddies are a safer bet right now... my vote (not that I will get to have one as there will be no choice in this respect) would be to get as close to break even as possible on the budget and sit tight for two years... now about that car.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hopeful 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Yorkfox,we have the team to win the league, weve got the manager to win the league,if we are top of the table we will have 2,000 at home games (with or without nice toilets).What we havent got is a big enough squad to win the league, now i dont want us to spend what we havent got,but whats happened to the Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Nobody has come out said what our real debt is. There is talk of monthly losses running at Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu M 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Originally Posted By: Hempstead Gaz 30,000 members @ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KShep 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Someone else mentioned getting feedback from Liam on what he feels he can achieve- this is so important; to be honest, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hempstead Gaz 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 True, Stu, but even if we only get 15,000 members re-enlist, that will give us another Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Urchin 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 been speaking to a few connie directors/managers and I am afraid that there is a big surprise in store regarding budgets...top budget thus far in the league is believed to be 23k...(won't be far off)...several over 15k...more at 12/13k 10k will get mid table unless liam pulls a rabbit out of the hat with some young talented players on their way up...liams a good manager but he can only do so much on a limited budget up against the sort of budget power apparently in operation next season....tales of 12/15k signing on fees and 1500 per week wages have been thrown at me today and even allowing for the usual smoke screens regarding such matters there will be much substance to it... 4 teams in connie sarf above 10k next season and several in ryman prem above 7k... crikey........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Originally Posted By: hopeful we have the team to win the league, weve got the manager to win the league,if we are top of the table we will have 2,000 at home games (with or without nice toilets). Hopeful, that is indeed hopeful. Up the Optimists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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