Chris Clapham Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 So sad at how real footballing people have been treated here. For those of you that don't know Ken very well, as I didnt when I first joined Mole Valley, he can be stubborn and a nightmare. For those of you that get to know him, you'll know he is one of the kindest people in football that will do anything for anyone. He works non stop for his club, and has had nothing but the interests of Cobham FC in his heart and has dedicated so much time and expenditure keeping that club going. Let's hope this sorry state of affairs concludes soon, and here's to hoping that that everyone involved in this has the good of Cobham FC in their hearts and not just personal wishes and ambitions. Hmmm! Smudge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Realistic One Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/cobham/news/cobham-football-club-official-statement-1368220.html http://www.ukfffc.co.uk/club/News/view/845691 The UKFF link just confirms that they are only doing this to take advantage of Cobham FC and basically use the club for its facilities and place in the football pyramid for their own advantage. The following link also shows just how desperately they need a club becuase when the director of football and ex-manager was appointed they decided to quit they league they should of been in and use the CCL. http://www.ukfffc.co.uk/club/News/view/846053 When they were originally appointed it was unknown that this was their initaitive and after the Chairmen found that nobody was interested in Cobham he sacked the manager as it was not being run correctly as a CLUB. I've heard that barely anybody would use the bar after the game and if they did they would just ask for water. It is the Chairmens perogative to sack the manager especially after this mess. Cobham FC should not be responsible for the UKFF but that is ultimately what is happening and why so much effort is going into re-appoint the old manager. The de-registered players that are apparently "members" are mostly listed on the following page. I have to say the amount of players and staff is quite amusing considering there is only one team at Cobham. I've seen clubs in the Premiership with less staff and players! http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/cobham/s/the-team-122031.html Chris Clapham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I have read it all went to court a few weeks back, probably doesn't matter if this is pleasant or correct in our views, just matters if it's legal or not. Football clubs have lots of different ways of establishing and running themselves, and a members club with few active members is at risk, as is a club run by a limited company with no cash or plan. Is membership to Cobham FC open to anyone? If we are all that worried about it, join up and vote. TSF,you have hit the nail on the head,what happened was legal as far as the Meeting,if a little underhand.It also had the backing of a County Court Judge and Ken Reed to take place,reason being that the previously sacked Director of Football was allowed to Chair the meeting,write the Agenda,tells its own story,hence the Bouncers and police presence.But unfortunenately they had done their homework re The Constitution as regards what constituted being a Member of Cobham FC,and used it to there advantage.The exclusion of any members of Surrey FA,Combined Counties League Representatives at the meeting,further underlines their intentions of a Coup de Tait. loop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E&E Rich Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Most members club constitutions are similar and in all cases I am aware of, players are members of the club, but not paid up members, effectively meaning that they have no vote. This is the case at Epsom & Ewell and I am sure many others too. Otherwise many clubs the size of Cobham with half a dozen regulars could be taken over by a former Manager and 15-20 of his mates. Clearly this should be looked into by the Surrey FA as I would have thought (don't know for certain, mind) that they would have the right to veto situations like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hamnett TSF Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 TSF,you have hit the nail on the head,what happened was legal as far as the Meeting,if a little underhand.It also had the backing of a County Court Judge and Ken Reed to take place,reason being that the previously sacked Director of Football was allowed to Chair the meeting,write the Agenda,tells its own story,hence the Bouncers and police presence.But unfortunenately they had done their homework re The Constitution as regards what constituted being a Member of Cobham FC,and used it to there advantage.The exclusion of any members of Surrey FA,Combined Counties League Representatives at the meeting,further underlines their intentions of a Coup de Tait. Ewemade a Wilde spelling error in Coup de Tate, smudge... Green_Fingers and Smudge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakesfanclub Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The UKFF link just confirms that they are only doing this to take advantage of Cobham FC and basically use the club for its facilities and place in the football pyramid for their own advantage. The following link also shows just how desperately they need a club becuase when the director of football and ex-manager was appointed they decided to quit they league they should of been in and use the CCL. http://www.ukfffc.co.uk/club/News/view/846053 It's a bit disingenuous of them to say they quit the league they should have been in. They resigned the season before.... http://www.ukfffc.co.uk/club/248797/News/view/834600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hamnett TSF Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Doesn't make good reading, does it? Easy to say now, but perhaps all our clubs should learn to do a bit of homework on potential partners, players and coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 By doing this have the UKFFFC gained entry to the CCL by the back door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Players have to be members of Clubs,to partake of an after match drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Clapham Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Players have to be members of Clubs,to partake of an after match drink. Smudge, I am about to PM you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loop Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Players have to be members of Clubs,to partake of an after match drink. How about the members clubs refuse to play them till Surrey fa sort this sorry mess,this lot have been looking for a base for a while now apparently and I'm led to believe this might have been tried elsewhere before!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hamnett TSF Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The old management/committee may have kept the club alive, they may have been holding it back, who can say? I think the new management/committee, who had a lot to say on social media when they were kicked out, should be a little more vocal now and show a bit of openness and honesty about what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Surrey FA/Combined Counties League are barred from intervening by Court Order.This is a Civil matter. Yes loop you could be right,remember the Mayor of Simpleton/Adam King had his sights set on Sheerwater,if I believe right. Edited February 4, 2015 by Smudge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loop Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Surrey FA/Combined Counties League are barred from intervening by Court Order.This is a Civil matter. Yes loop you could be right,remember the Mayor of Simpleton/Adam King had his sights set on Sheerwater,if I belief right. I remember Smudge, just can't get my head round someone just walking in and changing the locks!! Would like to know what the council think about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Sod Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Make that 3 first time posters,be nice if they came on with their Real names though. Why should posters reveal their names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Clapham Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I remember Smudge, just can't get my head round someone just walking in and changing the locks!! Would like to know what the council think about it The whole matter has been fully monitored by Elmbridge Council and is currently with their legal team. Can't say any more. loop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Will Cobham be able to fulfill their fixture this coming weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncs Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Why should posters reveal their names? duuuhhhh so as we know who they are and to make them accountable for what they post,if i came on here as sh1tstirrer and said anything about anybody then i wouldn't have to justify what i say cos i am hiding behind a pseudonym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Clapham Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Why should posters reveal their names? No reason whatsoever. The nature of this thread is debatable to say the least. We are talking about a football club and a football venue. The County FA and the CCL cannot/will not comment as it is partly sub-judice but we can discuss the potential fallout for all parties and the league in general. I would like to say so much but fear reproach and/or sanctions by various parties! I am happy to speak on this matter via PM if I know you however! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevoiceofreason Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Will Cobham be able to fulfill their fixture this coming weekend? ...and if they did, what message would it send to those who are concerned about football maintaining the merest atom of integrity? Bronco and Smudge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Why should posters reveal their names? Makes a lot of sense to me,then at least Geggy would of got a birthday wish from you,being a fellow Windsorite surely.Rather than you saying who the fook is Geggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 ...and if they did, what message would it send to those who are concerned about football maintaining the merest atom of integrity? That undesirables rule the roost. thevoiceofreason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CW1975 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Surrey FA/Combined Counties League are barred from intervening by Court Order.This is a Civil matter. Yes loop you could be right,remember the Mayor of Simpleton/Adam King had his sights set on Sheerwater,if I believe right.[/quote They did try, they also posted an add on the clubs behalf saying we were paying £50 a week. We had a good pre season turn out until I pulled a number of players into the changing rooms and explained they would not be getting paid and their kit pack for the season was going to cost £75. Think you may have been with me loop. loop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 No reason whatsoever. The nature of this thread is debatable to say the least. We are talking about a football club and a football venue. The County FA and the CCL cannot/will not comment as it is partly sub-judice but we can discuss the potential fallout for all parties and the league in general. I would like to say so much but fear reproach and/or sanctions by various parties! I am happy to speak on this matter via PM if I know you however! So it does matter then Chris if you know who the poster is Sent you a PM by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loop Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Surrey FA/Combined Counties League are barred from intervening by Court Order.This is a Civil matter. Yes loop you could be right,remember the Mayor of Simpleton/Adam King had his sights set on Sheerwater,if I believe right.[/quote They did try, they also posted an add on the clubs behalf saying we were paying £50 a week. We had a good pre season turn out until I pulled a number of players into the changing rooms and explained they would not be getting paid and their kit pack for the season was going to cost £75. Think you may have been with me loop. Correct mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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