15th. NOVEMBER 2014 - UPDATES.

[Krooner]

Indeed Rich.  Another tricky hurdle negotiated by Cove.  No sign of them letting up is there.  Can anyone stop them ?

 

Also re Hanworth unless I have missed it what was the reason for calling the game off ?

[thevoiceofreason]

Quite agree with you VOR but as has been highlighted in this thread already, limited club resources & games not needing much to be called off coupled with winter's that seem to get wetter by the year & club's losing finances as a result I think 3G's going to become a necessity for some clubs. It could also help form if club's don't have stop start patches in the season. It doesn't seem to have affected Whyteleafe's season.

As far as I'm concerned, clubs can do as they wish, just as I can with my money and will.  An investment in proper drainage would improve many pitches, but greed will always win and many clubs probably couldn't care less whether people preferred proper football as long as they are coining it in.

[BSFC Fan]

Indeed Rich. Another tricky hurdle negotiated by Cove. No sign of them letting up is there. Can anyone stop them ?

 

Also re Hanworth unless I have missed it what was the reason for calling the game off ?

Krooner, the match referee deemed the pitch un-playable after the downpour 1.15-2.10, think his assistants disagreed!!!

[duncs]

As far as I'm concerned, clubs can do as they wish, just as I can with my money and will.  An investment in proper drainage would improve many pitches, but greed will always win and many clubs probably couldn't care less whether people preferred proper football as long as they are coining it in.

how much does drainage cost ? and a lot of the time it is only a stop gap economy,3/4 G is the way forward voice whether we like it or not

[thevoiceofreason]

how much does drainage cost ? and a lot of the time it is only a stop gap economy,3/4 G is the way forward voice whether we like it or not

Well, I don't like it. Unlike many in this age of apathy, if I don't like something, I show those who do things I don't like that this is the case. In this respect, it will mean I won't pay to watch tip-tap anti football because I think it's crap. The "it's the way forward" bandwagon might be rolling, but it is only " the way forward" because those who might also think it's inferior and not football are too apathetic and timid to stand up and say so.

[BAD GUY]

I don't think it's just levels 4, 5 & 6 BG, I think a lot of Step 3 clubs would struggle as well but in some cases it's needs must. Take Chessington & Hook for example. Around this time of year if it's rained in the week there will be a good chance a home game will be off. They are often behind with games, which gives people like Lazarus constant headaches. If they had an artificial surface then they wouldn't have that problem & it's clubs like that that the FA should be trying to assist first. Granted it is expensive but the revenue that it would bring in will help the repayment of that I would imagine.

 

I'm agreeing with you regards to missing grass pitches & I'd love to see all non league clubs with suitable grass facilities but it's not realistic anymore. Virtually every team trains on a 3G pitch now, meaning that teams would be training on the surface their often going to play on & even a lot of professional turfs mix grass with 4G so it can't be that different. Players sliding or the pace/bounce of the ball is often the argument thrown up in this circumstance but I've seen players sliding on 3G & you could argue would the same players make a sliding tackle in July/August when the ground is dry? At the end of the day, good players will do what is necessary without thinking & will adapt their game according to their surface their playing on.

 

As stated I am not against 3/4G pitches.  Inveriably training on 3/4G pitches is to save clubs own pitch iwhich is subject to weather conditions.  Again as I mentioned for training and coaching they are ideal however as you mentioned teams train on 3/4G then at weekend play on grass totally different surface !

 

Also  its been said that 3/4G pitches are not good for ankles and knees.

 

We could discuss this until the cows come home but the bottom line is finance !  Clubs can't afford it so its grass I'm afraid bar the few who find ways to fund the pitch installation.

 

Forget clubs will get their money back thru' rent out etc., but first you've got to get the pittch installed and there lies the stubbling block.

[duncs]

The game has itself changed so much in recent times and is now so different to when i started playing,no back passes,the offside law,amount of subs allowed,contact and tackles, it seems now even the good old fashioned shoulder barge is not allowed,we are playing a different sport now and the surface of 3/4g suits this sort of game,its fast, skillfull and almost certainly guaranteed to go ahead whatever the weather,this is not just change for changes sake this is a must if we are ever gonna stand a chance of winning something nationally.  

[Smudge]

Duncs,loved your post above,Winning something nationally will never happen.The reason being the new breed of players are all tricks,all individuals.The Ox,Sterling,Townsend,Wiltshire,Henderson,Lallana,do not know what team play is,let alone pass to a team mate.

[Rother]

Spot on Duncs.

 

In this day and age of apathy if I think someone is talking bollocks I'll say so and thevoiceofreason is, on this particular subject, talking complete bollocks.

[thevoiceofreason]

Duncs,loved your post above,Winning something nationally will never happen.The reason being the new breed of players are all tricks,all individuals.The Ox,Sterling,Townsend,Wiltshire,Henderson,Lallana,do not know what team play is,let alone pass to a team mate.

,,,and many couldn't give a stuff whether the over hyped, over ambitious, average national team wins or not,, myself included.

[Footy Mad]

,,,and many couldn't give a stuff whether the over hyped, over ambitious, average national team wins or not,, myself included.

Why do you think it is that so many people care more now about their own favourite team and don't really care about the national team?

[thevoiceofreason]

Why do you think it is that so many people care more now about their own favourite team and don't really care about the national team?

Or, alternatively, why should anyone care about a national team any more ? Not sure either question has a definitive answer, although the assumption by card carrying, flag waving patriots that everyone should think the way they do is as odd to some as it is patronising!

[duncs]

well thats up to you and as most people on here know i will respect your opinion I don't agree but i will respect it,surely one of the greatest days in this countries history was when England won the world cup(never gonna happen to Scotland worst luck),England has the players to achieve it again and with a change in mind set( i.e. the old school tie brigade)can go and win something major,we all support our favourite teams but for me the National team is bigger.

[Lazy Sod]

I would say the egos associated with the national team are bigger. Personally, I hope the sweaties give us a pasting tomorrow night.

[Krooner]

You should ask nonleague Kroon he seems to know everything. (don't let the truth get in way of a good bit of stirring eh!)

Heard you first time Sniper

[Weeble]

And second, third and forth

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

I have been advised tonights game at Chessy is off, 

[Big J R]

I have been advised tonights game at Chessy is off, 

 

Not posted on our web-site yet, Jeff.

 

I hope someone remembers to tell The League !!

 

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

I'm sure the Chessy guys understand the cancellation procedure, and the league et al were informed about our last postponement in a correct manner, partly thanks to your kind assistance JR.

 

anyway wrong thread, sorry!

[Big J R]

I'm sure the Chessy guys understand the cancellation procedure, and the league et al were informed about our last postponement in a correct manner, partly thanks to your kind assistance JR.

 

anyway wrong thread, sorry!

 

 

Twice as I understand it  ! 

 

Our official  DFC  web-site now shows the cancellation, but you were ahead of them !!

 

..... and as you said, 'wrong thread', but who cares ?

[thevoiceofreason]

Spot on Duncs.

 

In this day and age of apathy if I think someone is talking bollocks I'll say so and thevoiceofreason is, on this particular subject, talking complete bollocks.

Good to see a well thought out response, To be blessed with that epithet by one so expert in the field is an honour. Hopefully that field is made of grass and not the tippy tap crap fawned over by the trendies. At least my bollocks is based on English grammar rather than being that of one challenged by such things, 4G, 3G,? Who cares? It isn't football and never will be, Bollocks a specialist subject of yours, by any chance?

[thevoiceofreason]

well thats up to you and as most people on here know i will respect your opinion I don't agree but i will respect it,surely one of the greatest days in this countries history was when England won the world cup(never gonna happen to Scotland worst luck),England has the players to achieve it again and with a change in mind set( i.e. the old school tie brigade)can go and win something major,we all support our favourite teams but for me the National team is bigger.

Whilst, for me, England are irrelevant. Happy for anyone to support whoever they wish, but the jingoistic rubbish and media drivel that surrounds a very average team is cringeworthy.

[Lazy Sod]

Good to see a well thought out response, To be blessed with that epithet by one so expert in the field is an honour. Hopefully that field is made of grass and not the tippy tap crap fawned over by the trendies. At least my bollocks is based on English grammar rather than being that of one challenged by such things, 4G, 3G,? Who cares? It isn't football and never will be, Bollocks a specialist subject of yours, by any chance?

 

And the grasp of grammar so good that a capitalised word follows a comma. You can't make this up pmsl.

[thevoiceofreason]

And the grasp of grammar so good that a capitalised word follows a comma. You can't make this up pmsl.

..Or the use of a chav expression at the end of a missive intended to imply superiority either!

[Footy Mad]

Whilst, for me, England are irrelevant. Happy for anyone to support whoever they wish, but the jingoistic rubbish and media drivel that surrounds a very average team is cringeworthy.

Think there is a t missing between the f and the r in your name