De ja vu

[Jumpers4Goalposts]

Maybe instead of focusing on the negatives and feeling sorry for ourselves we should be proud that we have a team who have not only won the FA Trophy in recent years but have reached back to back play off finals in a very tough league.

I am sure most other clubs in our position would be very jealous of the journey and adventures this club has had over the previous seasons.

Onwards and hopefully upwards, we go again next season!

[Frontfour]

The reason we won the fa trophy was because they were know where near the team as it was covid have a little think about that

I’m sick of the rumours that are spread around this club like a poison and can’t understand why some1 would do it always the same little crew but don’t realise it spreads back to the players mickey played left back when remi was injured and we’ve missed remi massively and we also missed our captain for the last 6games or so 2 of our best players this season what other club gets to the play off final with the captain missing and there top striker scoring 1 goal in the last 9 games but it’s higgo so don’t mention it also how bad was that ref if we had won 2-1 and gone up you’d be listening to the next bit of bs poison getting spread around next season by someone who’s ment to be on the same side as us it a f-ing joke Wake up

14 minutes ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

Maybe instead of focusing on the negatives and feeling sorry for ourselves we should be proud that we have a team who have not only won the FA Trophy in recent years but have reached back to back play off finals in a very tough league.

I am sure most other clubs in our position would be very jealous of the journey and adventures this club has had over the previous seasons.

Onwards and hopefully upwards, we go again next season!

Quality love that if only there was more SUPPORTERS at Hornchurch like yrself 👏 

[LukeXIX]

59 minutes ago, Frontfour said:

You are so right at last some1 with some sense who’s been there through out I take my hat of to you ,not some 1 spouting out about our budget which they should not even know but the rouges/spoilers at this club like to spread all kinds of rumours and tell all kinds of story’s, maybe it’s jealousy from the top having never won or done anything bigger than then winning the ithsman north, and how many years that take playing long ball football hoping for a knockdown to Bradley Warner your £500 a week midfielder, and yes with that budget you was beat in the final by Thurrock who had no budget at all. Back to that budget because you Mcbride brigade know so much about it #embarising ,what was billericy and Enfields budget this year and how many play off finals they been in in the last 2 yrs and yes with there budget. you’ve been spoilt Hornchurch stimo won you the the fa trophy but you still listen to the poison at this club and it’s the poison and not the togetherness and all as 1 team spirit we lack and why we haven’t been promoted 100%
Colin Mcbride and the board members ruin this club there rotten to the core we got blokes on Twitter/forum digging players out and then next week on the bench as a physio and handing out wages you think youl win the league like this 🤦🏻‍♂️ 
stimo get out of there asap and bring Alex with you his a great man and stimo anywhere but winning things for these they dnt deserve you and are always waiting to stab you in the back at any chance Hornchurch could be a great club but it needs to be run properly like bishop stortford not like a pub team

 

Can’t say I’ve ever handed out wages so another lie you have spouted about. Every fan is entitled to their opinion whether it’s good or bad especially ones who go every week and work their bollocks off for the club merely for the love of the football club. FYI I’ve also done it to their faces and not just on here like you. When I was physio for the club for a few games as there was nobody else to do it and I was the most qualified to HELP OUT. By the way I also did that for free! 
We all know who you’re so maybe if you’d like to volunteer next season and help out rather than getting in for free every game you’re more than welcome too.

I could say a whole lot more but i’ll keep quiet. Can’t post comment on yesterdays game as I only got to see the last 10 minutes along with 4 or 5 others due to volunteering on the gate and stopping people from jumping over the gate and causing a disturbance outside booting the doors of the turnstiles. Did I mention we did all that for free?

Thanks for your input 👍

[Frontfour]

15 hours ago, kimbles left foot said:

3 god awful subs killed the game - before that with 10 we were still in with a chance. Granted Ade failed to turn up again....but to take off 50+ goal strikeforce when chasing a game is unforgiveable.

The board have backed Stimson incredibly well and yet he has failed to deliver this season with the main ambition being promotion,...thanks for the cup memories Mark but you need to go.

Fresh ideas/squad need to happen sooner rather then later

What about them subs made at Wembley aheyyy or you forgotten already stimos only been a manager 20 yrs but he started making bad subs last night 😂 higgo scored 1 goal in 9 you think he fancied the travelling next season if we went up you lot are sooo deluded wake up

[Frontfour]

15 hours ago, kimbles left foot said:

 

I believe our budget to be extremely competitive - just how many other clubs have purchased players in our league this season? not many that's for sure.

You lost me on your last sentence, what do you mean? Stimson has clearly been backed massively this season

Sadly it's a results business with an objective of promotion and he has failed this twice

[Frontfour]

15 hours ago, kimbles left foot said:

 

I believe our budget to be extremely competitive - just how many other clubs have purchased players in our league this season? not many that's for sure.

You lost me on your last sentence, what do you mean? Stimson has clearly been backed massively this season

Sadly it's a results business with an objective of promotion and he has failed this twice

Are you a board member if not how do you know the budget Ether yr not a board member so shouldn’t know anything about the budget or you’ve had a board member putting poison in yr ear don’t worry tho it happends a lot at this club,or yr a board member and shouldn’t be talking sh#t on here

I rest my case ✌️ 

[CraigDavid]

No one is taking anything away from the club, player or Stimmo for that matter regarding the FA Trophy, for that run and day out I will be forever grateful.  Having been up and down the country and around Essex in the ESL I could never had imagined Hornchurch Football Club playing at Wembley let alone winning. 

There a large number of passionate supporters over the clubs that have dedicated a lot or time, hard work and graft for many years that are entitled to have an opinion so apologies if it doesn't match yours. 

Fully aware Mickey covered for Remi and he has done a great job there for us, however Mickey is a superb right back and when Remi was back we persisted with playing him at left wing back. Why?

Can you not see the frustration though given the position we were in? we had 4 games in hand, we are not entitled to anything but to be in that position and end up not going up is very hard to take.

I am not knocking the players, you cant fault their commitment at all and you could see that at the end they were gutted as are we as supporters.

Why is it that at Non League level a manager is not allowed to take some level of responsibility for the outcome of the season?

Alex has been incredible and we are extremely fortunate to have him at our football club and i really hope he sticks around.

As Kimble said if it wasn't for McBride in the past I don't think we would have a football club to support right now given what others tried to do to us.

Also feel a shoutout is required to all volunteers throughout the club form the supporters club to Little Tel as they sacrifice their experience on days like yesterday to ensure it goes off ok for everyone else.

Edited May 2 by CraigDavid

[kimbles left foot]

14 minutes ago, Frontfour said:

Are you a board member if not how do you know the budget Ether yr not a board member so shouldn’t know anything about the budget or you’ve had a board member putting poison in yr ear don’t worry tho it happends a lot at this club,or yr a board member and shouldn’t be talking sh#t on here

I rest my case ✌️ 

I'm not a board member, just a supporter and just like you I'm allowed an opinion.

After reading all your posts I'm still not sure who/what your comments are aimed towards.
 

Are you suggesting not playing the leagues top scorer because he failed to find the next for a few games? have you seen what else he brings to the team other then scoring? his hold play and vision are second to none.

Mickey played left back well before Remi had any injuries so that's no excuse 

FACT - Stimson this season has under achieved, the objective was promotion and he failed whether you like it or not

[Jumpers4Goalposts]

31 minutes ago, LukeXIX said:

Can’t say I’ve ever handed out wages so another lie you have spouted about. Every fan is entitled to their opinion whether it’s good or bad especially ones who go every week and work their bollocks off for the club merely for the love of the football club. FYI I’ve also done it to their faces and not just on here like you. When I was physio for the club for a few games as there was nobody else to do it and I was the most qualified to HELP OUT. By the way I also did that for free! 
We all know who you’re so maybe if you’d like to volunteer next season and help out rather than getting in for free every game you’re more than welcome too.

I could say a whole lot more but i’ll keep quiet. Can’t post comment on yesterdays game as I only got to see the last 10 minutes along with 4 or 5 others due to volunteering on the gate and stopping people from jumping over the gate and causing a disturbance outside booting the doors of the turnstiles. Did I mention we did all that for free?

Thanks for your input 👍

“Can’t post comment on yesterday’s game” … after posting comments on the game?

Was the ref poor? - yes

Should we have had a penalty? - yes

Can the manager affect that? - no

Grow up and accept that only two clubs go up and we have been painfully close on both occasions.

Other clubs would love to have a manager of our calibre so just take your agenda elsewhere, you are only positioning other fans with your immature thoughts.

[kimbles left foot]

2 minutes ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

“Can’t post comment on yesterday’s game” … after posting comments on the game?

Was the ref poor? - yes

Should we have had a penalty? - yes

Can the manager affect that? - no

Grow up and accept that only two clubs go up and we have been painfully close on both occasions.

Other clubs would love to have a manager of our calibre so just take your agenda elsewhere, you are only positioning other fans with your immature thoughts.

I'm talking the whole season not just yesterdays game.

Can the manager affect this? yes, that's what he is paid for - he takes plaudits when we win so it he accept criticism when we lose

I'm fully grown - it's called an opinion, if you don't like go else where

[LukeP]

Apparently you’re not allowed to be negative on here, everyone is allowed an opinion. Stimson is lucky that the owners are good to him because at other clubs he would be under real pressure. Don’t get giving him a contract extension mid season though, why not wait until the end of the season. We can’t do anything about it now, Shamefully it will be Hashtag next season. Sometimes as a club you need to be ruthless, no time for sentimentality, it’s how you progress. 

[Urchins]

2 hours ago, Frontfour said:

You are so right at last some1 with some sense who’s been there through out I take my hat of to you ,not some 1 spouting out about our budget which they should not even know but the rouges/spoilers at this club like to spread all kinds of rumours and tell all kinds of story’s, maybe it’s jealousy from the top having never won or done anything bigger than then winning the ithsman north, and how many years that take playing long ball football hoping for a knockdown to Bradley Warner your £500 a week midfielder, and yes with that budget you was beat in the final by Thurrock who had no budget at all. Back to that budget because you Mcbride brigade know so much about it #embarising ,what was billericy and Enfields budget this year and how many play off finals they been in in the last 2 yrs and yes with there budget. you’ve been spoilt Hornchurch stimo won you the the fa trophy but you still listen to the poison at this club and it’s the poison and not the togetherness and all as 1 team spirit we lack and why we haven’t been promoted 100%
Colin Mcbride and the board members ruin this club there rotten to the core we got blokes on Twitter/forum digging players out and then next week on the bench as a physio and handing out wages you think youl win the league like this 🤦🏻‍♂️ 
stimo get out of there asap and bring Alex with you his a great man and stimo anywhere but winning things for these they dnt deserve you and are always waiting to stab you in the back at any chance Hornchurch could be a great club but it needs to be run properly like bishop stortford not like a pub team

 

Bradley Warner left us something like 4 years ago.

 

We've never played Thurrock in a play-off final

 

Which play-off finals have Enfield or Billericay been in over the last 2 years ?

 

Struggling to understand your point.

Edited May 2 by Urchins

[Jumpers4Goalposts]

Why have you blocked front4 I don’t think he cares you know who he is is it does the truth hurts why have you never backed stimo or the boys pls let us know what more you have to say I won’t say any more just realised I’m talking to a policeman owwwwwww now go do something for Colin for free water boy 😉

Struggling to understand why there is so much negativity when we finished second and lost 1-0 yesterday after a shambolic ref didn’t give us a blatant penalty!

Anyone would have thought we would have been relegated after reading all your comments - cor blimey reel it in!

[Urchins]

1 minute ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

Why have you blocked front4 I don’t think he cares you know who he is is it does the truth hurts why have you never backed stimo or the boys pls let us know what more you have to say I won’t say any more just realised I’m talking to a policeman owwwwwww now go do something for Colin for free water boy 😉

Nope sorry, no idea.

 

Can someone translate please ?

[cup of tea]

Not going to comment on everything above but there’s two points I would make.

Firstly Colin saved this club - for those of us that can remember that state of the club he inherited and where we are today , Colin (and Jimmy et al.) were and have been miracle workers. Not always seen eye to eye with Colin but if anyone doubts the commitment and effort he has shown to this club over a long period of time I’m happy to discuss in person anything about that. That’s why he’s got a stand named after him. 

Secondly, Alex has been amazing for this club and after his personal efforts towards Hornchurch particularly over the last couple of years, I was hoping that this was going to be rewarded with a promotion but it just feels the problems were on the pitch rather than off it. I don’t for one minute question the commitment of the players but there’s clearly something wrong there. 

 

 

[kimbles left foot]

10 minutes ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

Why have you blocked front4 I don’t think he cares you know who he is is it does the truth hurts why have you never backed stimo or the boys pls let us know what more you have to say I won’t say any more just realised I’m talking to a policeman owwwwwww now go do something for Colin for free water boy 😉

Struggling to understand why there is so much negativity when we finished second and lost 1-0 yesterday after a shambolic ref didn’t give us a blatant penalty!

Anyone would have thought we would have been relegated after reading all your comments - cor blimey reel it in!

You can't blame the awful ref on the capitulation of the second half of the season, how many times did we throw leads away? the mentality/back bone of the squad wasn't strong enough it's plain to see -  as soon as soon as we go under the cosh we crumble and again the stats back this up, it's not me making it up or having a moan about Stimson.  What do you mean 'why have we never back Stimo and the boys?' we have a great set of supporters who back the team home and away

[CraigDavid]

7 minutes ago, cup of tea said:

Not going to comment on everything above but there’s two points I would make.

Firstly Colin saved this club - for those of us that can remember that state of the club he inherited and where we are today , Colin (and Jimmy et al.) were and have been miracle workers. Not always seen eye to eye with Colin but if anyone doubts the commitment and effort he has shown to this club over a long period of time I’m happy to discuss in person anything about that. That’s why he’s got a stand named after him. 

Secondly, Alex has been amazing for this club and after his personal efforts towards Hornchurch particularly over the last couple of years, I was hoping that this was going to be rewarded with a promotion but it just feels the problems were on the pitch rather than off it. I don’t for one minute question the commitment of the players but there’s clearly something wrong there. 

 

 

Well summed up.

[cup of tea]

55 minutes ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

Why have you blocked front4 I don’t think he cares you know who he is is it does the truth hurts why have you never backed stimo or the boys pls let us know what more you have to say I won’t say any more just realised I’m talking to a policeman owwwwwww now go do something for Colin for free water boy 😉

Struggling to understand why there is so much negativity when we finished second and lost 1-0 yesterday after a shambolic ref didn’t give us a blatant penalty!

Anyone would have thought we would have been relegated after reading all your comments - cor blimey reel it in!

Is there any reason you're resorting to name calling? Does that achieve anything? Our chairman backed the club with the sole aim of getting promotion and that hasn't happened. We had the league in the bag and threw it away, do you deny that? - It shouldn't have come down to a playoff game because of the risk of getting a poor ref or not turning up on the day. Aveley weren't that good but they didn't need to be because they knew what they were going to get from us and set up to counter that as they have done the other two times they've beaten us this season - Was it Einstein that said that the definition of insanity was to do the same experiment on multiple occasions and expect different results?

[LukeXIX]

1 hour ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

Why have you blocked front4 I don’t think he cares you know who he is is it does the truth hurts why have you never backed stimo or the boys pls let us know what more you have to say I won’t say any more just realised I’m talking to a policeman owwwwwww now go do something for Colin for free water boy 😉

Struggling to understand why there is so much negativity when we finished second and lost 1-0 yesterday after a shambolic ref didn’t give us a blatant penalty!

Anyone would have thought we would have been relegated after reading all your comments - cor blimey reel it in!

Firstly I haven’t blocked him. Secondly I feel like I’m talking to a 10 year old with how you speak. I’m not getting into a war of words over a FANS FORUM. Clearly you’re not a fan you’re a tag along. If you would like to talk like an adult in person or over the phone feel free to message me privately.

You’ve both made me feel special though mentioning me when I haven’t even commented on the game yesterday. If you want my autograph let me know I’ll send it over, £5 admin fee. Thanks 😘

[kimbles left foot]

13 minutes ago, cup of tea said:

Is there any reason you're resorting to name calling? Does that achieve anything? Our chairman backed the club with the sole aim of getting promotion and that hasn't happened. We had the league in the bag and threw it away, do you deny that? - It shouldn't have come down to a playoff game because of the risk of getting a poor ref or not turning up on the day. Aveley weren't that good but they didn't need to be because they knew what they were going to get from us and set up to counter that as they have done the other two times they've beaten us this season - Was it Einstein that said that the definition of insanity was to do the same experiment on multiple occasions and expect different results?

Expertly put 👏

[obis]

It’s getting a little hot on here.  Let’s settle down and remind ourselves that it is only football.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, surely that’s what a Forum should be.  It’s an entertainment business and I thinks we have had a lot of that this season.  Sometimes you won’t get a happy ending.  We will in time look back at things we think should have been done or played a different way and we will need to unite and go again.  If ones enjoyment is all about having a Cup win or promotion the majority of fans throughout the country will be disappointed. Enjoy the ride with its ups and downs, let off steam if you have to and celebrate when we can.  Let’s galvanise and have a good summer to reflect upon how lucky we are to be able to watch our local club compete. We have had good progression off the pitch with excellent attendance so let’s keep our heads and regroup for next season. 

Edited May 2 by obis

[Stuart2023]

WOW!  Seriously some of these comments have made me smile today.  All these experts that know each clubs budgets....!!! If supporters know what the Hornchurch budget is then fundamentally that is wrong and needs addressing as this should always be kept in house.  Look around the ground and see what's happened.  FA Trophy winners, Play off finalists 2 years running.  Look at the teams who's seasons finished 2 weeks ago.  Enfield Town, Folkstone, Lewes & Billericay.  All big clubs and established at this level for many years and higher. All these clubs have good fan base that support the team regardless.  Yes its disappointing but being Hornchurch doesn't mean teams turn up and rollover.  The crowds have increased that shows you the team are performing and getting results.  I'm seeing comments that the ref got most decisions right!!  That shows me all I need to know and levels of football knowledge!!! 2 pens 100% even the 4th official conceded at least 1 was nailed on and if outside the box the ref gives it without question.  I spoke to the ref assessor after the game and again comments were not great towards some of decisions he witnessed.  If you was a player reading this forum today would you want  to play for the club again???  The linesman that made a complete fcukup at Horsham was on the line yesterday how can that happen!!!  

[Urchin_Rat_Man]

3 hours ago, Frontfour said:

higgo scored 1 goal in 9 you think he fancied the travelling next season if we went up you lot are sooo deluded wake up

So you have a player who apparently doesn't fancy travelling next season, but still proceed to play him anyway knowing he doesn't want to go up? 

Brilliant choice. 

2 hours ago, Jumpers4Goalposts said:

 owwwwwww now go do something for Colin for free water boy 😉

Now having a go at volunteers because they do stuff for free? If it wasn't for these people,  there would be no club, and you'd be licking Stimsons arse somewhere else. 

Harry Martin tried giving the deeds to his house to save this club once. People do things for the love of the club. Not for money. 

 

[CraigDavid]

55 minutes ago, Stuart2023 said:

WOW!  Seriously some of these comments have made me smile today.  All these experts that know each clubs budgets....!!! If supporters know what the Hornchurch budget is then fundamentally that is wrong and needs addressing as this should always be kept in house.  Look around the ground and see what's happened.  FA Trophy winners, Play off finalists 2 years running.  Look at the teams who's seasons finished 2 weeks ago.  Enfield Town, Folkstone, Lewes & Billericay.  All big clubs and established at this level for many years and higher. All these clubs have good fan base that support the team regardless.  Yes its disappointing but being Hornchurch doesn't mean teams turn up and rollover.  The crowds have increased that shows you the team are performing and getting results.  I'm seeing comments that the ref got most decisions right!!  That shows me all I need to know and levels of football knowledge!!! 2 pens 100% even the 4th official conceded at least 1 was nailed on and if outside the box the ref gives it without question.  I spoke to the ref assessor after the game and again comments were not great towards some of decisions he witnessed.  If you was a player reading this forum today would you want  to play for the club again???  The linesman that made a complete fcukup at Horsham was on the line yesterday how can that happen!!!  

No one is saying they know the actual budget but it is obvious when you can see some of the talent on the pitch and level of experience that they would be demanding a wage on the higher end of the scale along with the signing of Ade. 

I don't recall many if anyone on here stating that the ref had a good game.

I cannot speak for the players obviously, however the people on here that have been disappointed and stated that on here also haven't been negative towards the players at all, as a whole i think they would like to play for the club with passionate loyal fans with growing attendances.  The main way to keep people coming back though is good performances and results and unfortunately towards the end of the season that hasn't been the case as much as we would have liked.

Do you go on the forums of all these other clubs that you have listed quoting their support for their clubs regardless? I mean I am pretty sure the large majority on here have supported the club regardless, just because we are disappointed and have an opinion doesn't mean we haven't supported the team.   

When the club went into administration and we lost everything we were still there and we are still here now so please refrain from questioning the support of the club and the team.

Edited May 2 by CraigDavid

[kimbles left foot]

2 hours ago, Stuart2023 said:

WOW!  Seriously some of these comments have made me smile today.  All these experts that know each clubs budgets....!!! If supporters know what the Hornchurch budget is then fundamentally that is wrong and needs addressing as this should always be kept in house.  Look around the ground and see what's happened.  FA Trophy winners, Play off finalists 2 years running.  Look at the teams who's seasons finished 2 weeks ago.  Enfield Town, Folkstone, Lewes & Billericay.  All big clubs and established at this level for many years and higher. All these clubs have good fan base that support the team regardless.  Yes its disappointing but being Hornchurch doesn't mean teams turn up and rollover.  The crowds have increased that shows you the team are performing and getting results.  I'm seeing comments that the ref got most decisions right!!  That shows me all I need to know and levels of football knowledge!!! 2 pens 100% even the 4th official conceded at least 1 was nailed on and if outside the box the ref gives it without question.  I spoke to the ref assessor after the game and again comments were not great towards some of decisions he witnessed.  If you was a player reading this forum today would you want  to play for the club again???  The linesman that made a complete fcukup at Horsham was on the line yesterday how can that happen!!!  

Stuart, perhaps you are new supporting the team? Hornchurch are an established team and  have played at a higher level in one form or another in front of bigger crowds too. There is obviously no given right to get promotion out of this league however after having it in our hands we have thrown it away again so you cannot blame fans being disappointed. We cannot bemoan our luck and always blame officials, yes they were horrendous yesterday however in the grand scheme of things we simply haven't been good enough when it mattered most (x2 Canvey, x2 Aveley, away to BS, away to CC, away to Haringey) now I obviously don't expect us to win every game but some of those performances were alarming. (granted I moan more then most but even the most positive of fans would agree I imagine). No one is digging out the players or moaning about their commitment so please don't bring that tosh up about them wanting to play for the club again they all know they have our backing, the majority are questioning the management.